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Jim:

I too find some joggers to be over zealous and a bit pretentious. Cytokines are released by just about anything you do and they are largely inflammatory (that is they increase the permeability of blood vessels to let products get to specific tissue sites). This sounds like a cytokine balance theory, but I know of nothing that supports (or denies) it.

All I can say is that to sell a book today you have to have an angle. Back to you and your kids. You are blessed to have that many children for playmates for the years ahead. Play is healthful; most games are power-law distributed and that is the language of nature.

Art,

I do not jog and I have always had an intuitive dislike for jogging - and in many cases, joggers.

However, the assertion of Dr. Lodge ("Younger Next Year") is that cytokines that trigger decay and growth are released during low and slow aerobics. The growth is in response to the decay and overhelms it, signalling the body to rebuild and renew. The recommendation is 45 minutes at 65% max heart rate 4 days a week.

What exersize I do is closer to your recommendations (as far as I understand them) and so I was drawn to your writing. However, I'm looking for more data to back up this way of life. Do you have any insight as to why more growth and renewal takes place with interval-style training versus low and slow?

Jim:

Oh man, how can you do that? This is Soviet drudgery.

Play with your kids and forget the jogging. Do the weight training, but do it right. You can't load all that onto your life and be happy or healthy. I repeat: I think jogging is dangerous and unhealthful.

I dislike the title of this book and do not agree with what you have said their presciption is. Another reason why I will do my book my way without an editor trying to shape it.

It's common knowledge in the fire service, that the average firefighter lasts only 5 years after retirement. For years, their hearts deal with constant chaos. The body and heart learn to deal with and recover from this chaos, and then all of a sudden, the chaos is no longer a normal part of their life. A more steady state moves in and possibly fibrillation begins. At the very least the body loses its ability to recover from chaotic events.
I find it similiar...the retirement, jogging, loss of heart chaos ...sudden death. Perhaps if they began introducing periodic moments of chaos through training( no jogging please) prior to retirement, it could be longer lasting, and more enjoyable.

This seems like as good a place as any to ask,,, what are your thoughts - if you're familiar with the book - of "Younger Next Year" by Lodge and Crowley? Their premise is like yours I guess; anyone can become functionally younger and remain a healthy 50 year old into his eighties. As a healthy 50 year old with 4 small children, this is a very appealing message.

The exersize, though, has me wondering. They propose 40 minutes a day, 4 days a week of low and slow aerobics and two days of strength training. They discuss interval training and such but that is not heavily emphasized.

Jonathon:

He probably has a lot of imbalance or lack of symmetry in his knees, calves, and quads. Take a look at where the pain is in the knee and then try to balance the force spread over the knee. This may mean tighting inner adductors and stretching outer quad muscles, particularly the outer lateral band.

But, don't stretch really tight muscles. They have a trigger point and you have to role that out on a roller. Stretching a trigger point muscle will not help as it is too tight to trigger a response from the Golgi tendon organ.

You don't have to kill the point, as many recommend because the trigger point is in an ATP crisis and hasn't the energy to relax. Just roll it out on a volley ball or a styrofoam roll that you can get from a fitness web site. Roll the outer thigh and stretch the inner thigh.

This is what I would do, but don't take it as medical advice.

Art (or others),

My father (now nearing 60), was a long distance runner for a good portion of his life (20 + years). Ironically, it was injury to his knees (due to repetitive over-use) that put him on the sidelines years back(in retrospect, thank God). He has always ate in a fairly decent manner, though more recently (over the past couple of years) I've convinced him to switch his eating patterns over to an "EvFit" style. He really likes the Crossfit concept and was doing that for a while (while their concept seems much closer to your philosophy than any standard BB routine, the program still seems too linear since there's the scheduled 3 days on 1 day off protocol). He's been doing a lot of labor work over the past few months (owns his own tree business) so he has not been working out much due to the strenuous demands of the job. His physical role in the business is soon to cease and he will be getting back to working out. I figure I'll get him on a plan similar to your own. My question is this: Is there any way to undo the accumulated damage of a lifetime of distance running? Thanks a lot. *Sorry for the long post*

-Jonathon

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