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Evolutionary Fitness, Intermittent Fasting, EvoSport and Football

December 18, 2007 06:57 AM

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Dan, who is pictured in the photo, has been following EF (Evolutionary Fitness) for quite some time. He plays football at the elite college level and tells this story about finally adding IF (intermittent fasting) to EF. In addition he uses a system I am not yet familiar developed by Jay Schroeder called EvoSport. It seems everyone is getting into the evolutionary way of thinking. Of note is the drop in body fat with no loss of lean body weight when Dan added IF to his program; most of the weight loss was in a drop of waist size of 4 inches. But, he had to drop the 4 or 5 meals a day mentality often held by body builders and athletes.

Dan's characterization of his set up in the picture is excellent: "Notice the athletic position in one picture. Hamstrings pulling into the ground, torse erect, chest separating at the pectorals. These are hallmarks of the efficient athlete." Young athletes should pay close attention and also understand that he has excellent technology at his disposal in EF, IF, and EvoSport.

Here is Dan's description of his methods:

"First off, I've been reading your blog since it's inception (and am now re-reading from the archives because of some free time), but just this past summer began applying IF principles to my lifestyle approach. Despite being a long time reader, I somehow had been reluctant to apply episodic caloric deprivation. I create a demand for calories unlike many others, I had reasoned. This is true, but my physiology still evolved like everyone else. I soon found I would benefit greatly from IF. I dropped approx. 4 inches 4-5 weeks, while maintaining the same weight. I went from 34 to 30 w/ little effort. In pictures that will follow, people always remark about how skinny my waist is. For the past several years I had eaten meats, vegetables, fruits, and nuts as the bulk of my diet but had difficulty shaking popular fitnesses' 4-5 meals a day. In retrospect, how silly. Because of the stressful demands of the football season, I gained a few inches back and my lean mass dropped a bit. Not good. However, I did not diligently apply IF because of concerns about caloric deprivation and the demands of the season. Probably, not well reasoned. "

On EvoSport, he has a brief insight into the theory; it is fight or flight made systematic in my estimation. Pretty sound on those grounds at least.

"Consider this, Jay has found ways to eliminate the normal symptoms of overtraining by working the body at high load, high velocity, and high volume. More specifically, this is done by training the body's reflexive systems. Think fight or flight! He accomplishes this w/ iso-extremes, rebounds, and altitude drops amongst other methodics. These inhibit the GTO, inhibiting the bodys protective mechanisms, thus allowing elite performance. I could write about it hours, but it is a little food for thought. The body's reflexive system can be trained to elicit the same performance over and over and over. It's quite remarkable. Much of it in line to what you already know to be true..."

I include a couple more pictures below. Did you ever see a leaner, more balanced and graceful looking athlete? His physical goals are impressive: "My goal at the Northwestern combine... weigh in at shredded 210 (only to impress scouts, weight is really irrelevant) and a 4.3 40 yard dash and 35 plus vert. jump. Only accomplished w/ the help of the two best technologies avaialble, EF, IF, and Evo-Sport. I am taking a cue from you here and perhaps creating some incentives (everything is economics) for myself to adhere the best I can to these goals and the demands of living the proper lifestyle. "

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Comments

Great pics and inspiring story. I was particularly interested in the fact that Dan did not lose strength despite Intermitten Fasting. I am interested in hearing others' experiences with Intermittent Fasting (IF). I am going to experiment with skipping breakfast and lunch MON-WED-FRI as an experiment. Given my work schedule, that would mean approximately 20-21 hour periods of fasting. The only beverages I will have are water, tea, espresso, coffee -- and if it's a sauna day, zero calorie salty broth. I am already normal weight so my experience/results may differ from those of someone who is trying to lose excess weight. It seems that some posters skip the evening meal but that can't work for me on my schedule plus I do not see how eating a large evening meal can have a negative impact so long as one keeps carbs low. But I'll soon find out. It is cold, dark, winter in NYC and I just am not as active now plus very sunlight deficient, so I'm thinking this would be a good way to avoid any fat gain during the holiday season.

Posted by: paleogal [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 21, 2007 7:10 AM

Thanks for your contributions, Dan.

Reading the details of various individual EV/IF experiences is very helpful. I am a tennis coach, so the relevance of EF/IF to athletic performance, especially the performance of exceptional athletes like you, is significant. I look forward to your report of your blood work if/when you get that done.

Posted by: Bob [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 20, 2007 9:51 AM

Dan - I was not intending to be critical of how you look. It was just that the photos did not seem to display what Art was talking about. Hope the training continues well.

Chris

Posted by: Chris H [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 19, 2007 2:19 PM

I've been having difficulty posting comments so please bare w/ me. If this doesn't work, I'm going to forward to Dr. DeVany.
On a few of the comments...
Murf, most of experience w/ IF has been w/ the overnight fast you mentioned, though I have also been cutting out food immediately after training, for over an hour amongst a few other slight adjustments. Read the archives, it is all there and you have to decide for yourself what fits.
Chris H, I would agree w/ you. I look ok, but the look I'm going for is as Dr. DeVany mentions one of symmetry, athletic efficiency, and grace. I will mention that I was by far and a way the smallest linebacker in the Big Ten at around 205, bulk in my opinion is just that BULK. I only care about function. In addition, this was merely w/ two months of preparation for the season coming off of an ankle surgery b/c of inept athletic trainers at a school I will not mention. Though I'm partially to blame for not voicing my limitations and standing up for myself.
Robb Wolf, Jay is not as secretive as you suspect. I have read the interview; I would argue some of the cornerstones of his training system are there just not on the superficial level. Thus, his comments, "do not expect what you do not inspect". Additionally, Jay does not prescribe wholesale what he does because it’s not possible. It is what he has developed over years and years of work. The integrity of his system would suffer if he attempted to do so. Already, I have met many people who call what they’re doing a Jay Schroeder workout when it is nothing remotely similar. It doesn’t work that way, the system is just that a system. It can’t be auctioned off piece-meal.
Dan, I’d be happy to provide the relevant blood work. Hopefully, I can get it done over the holidays. I’ve been planning on looking into it, but have yet to do so. Also, I apologize if my comments came of self-laudatory I was merely trying to point out the success I’ve had w/ these technologies and objectively comment on position as it relates to sporting success. Position, posture, whatever you want to call it is perhaps the most oft overlooked component of athletic function.

Posted by: DanDixon [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 19, 2007 10:26 AM

An interesting photo essay called "What the World Eats" is at the following link:

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1626519_1373664,00.html

Very interesting to see the "right" and "wrong" choices people have made, as well as some people that have no real choices. As well as the vast range of food budgets. And the disparity in the amount of processed vs. non-processed food.

Posted by: wilmorej [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 19, 2007 8:42 AM

Not anything against Dan, but I second Chris. It's hard to discern exactly the sort of shape he's in with all that gear on. That isn't to say he isn't indeed in great shape. I'd also be interested to hear what the results were from his latest blood test. If you're willing to put yourself out there with pictures and a self-laudatory description, you should be willing to provide a fairly full and accurate representation of your physical health, as Art and Super Mike did. One wouldn't want others to draw false inferences.

Posted by: Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 6:45 PM

Art and/or Dan, I'd love to learn more about how to properly employ IF. I've been doing the weights since May and have added a lot of lean and dropped a bit of fat. A month or so ago I started eating more correctly (meat, veggies, friuts, nuts, 2-3 meals per day).

Last week, I did a 30 hr fast, culminating in an intense 30-40 min workout at the gym. Lunch was my last meal on Wednesday, so I skipped dinner, breakfast on Thursday, lunch, then worked out at 4 pm and had a nice dinner or meat & veggies after.

I was surprised that the hunger was most intense Wed evening, after skipping dinner, but was a cinch all day Thursday, even oddly pleasant. I felt really, really strong and invigorated for the workout.

So, I'm wondering if that's too much, not enough, and how often I can do it. I've got probably 20 pounds of fat to loose, still.

Posted by: Richard Nikoley [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 3:34 PM

Interesting stuff. I interviewed Coach Schroeder about three years ago but he is pretty tight lipped about his methodologies. No training, no progressions...tough to evaluate what the effective elements of the program are.

Posted by: Robb Wolf [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 2:32 PM

I must be missing something. He looks OK, but it is hard to judge with all the pads and helmets that you americans wear. (That is a British rugby fan's opinion!)

Still I'd also vouch for IF - really effective.


Presumably Evosport is at:

http://www.evosport.us/ ?

Posted by: Chris H [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 2:14 PM

Interesting - I would also like to know what the minimum method is for IF. Would an overnight fast till lunchtime once a week be enough??
Thanks

Posted by: Murf [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 2:07 PM

Very interesting - however, I'm not quite clear on what Evosport is. Anyone know? Thanks!

Posted by: Katzenjammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 1:03 PM

Amazing how much changing one pattern can improve your health. Dan looks like a piece of steel.

Posted by: Jonathan P [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 18, 2007 11:29 AM

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